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  1. Terrorists in Business suits: 2002 Bali bombing retro..

    The attack of 12 October 2002 in Bali Indonesia, surely resembles 911, the April 19 1995 bombing of the Murragh Building in Oklahoma, and the simultaneous attacks on the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania on August 7 1998.

    Kenya Oklahoma

    911 Bali

    Second explosion far bigger than intended, ringleader tells London Times.
    The ringleader of the Bali bombers claims that the attack on the nightclub district in 2002 was much larger than he had expected and that the only explanation for so much carnage was that the bombers were aided by the CIA, KGB or Mossad.

    Imam Samudra, the alleged mastermind behind the attack who also chose the targets, told the London Times in an interview that the second explosion was bigger than the bombers had expected and the attack killed far more people than originally intended.

    The only explanation, he suggested, was that “the CIA or KGB or Mossad” - those familiar bogeymen of the conspiracy theorist – had somehow tampered with the bomb. “It is very possible,” he claimed.

    The death toll amounted to 202 people, 168 of whom were foreign nationals including 88 Australians and 28 Britons.
    He claimed the bombers had never meant to kill so many people. What happened at Paddy’s Bar and the Sari Club was “unacceptable”, he said. Had he made the bomb? “No, no, no!” he said, shaking his head. “I didn’t help to make it, and who made the bomb and when I don’t know.

    Despite The Times' best efforts to scoff at the claim, the fact that U.S. and British authorities were tipped off in advance of the bombing is documented. The second bomb, which was loaded inside a Mitsubishi L300 van, was detonated as people fled out into the streets as a result of the panic generated by the smaller first bomb which was detonated inside the nightclub.

    Initial reports said the Mitsubishi bomb consisted of C4, a military grade plastic explosive which is difficult to obtain, but the story was soon changed and the bomb was said to be of a more crude design. The sheer devastation the bomb wrought on surrounding buildings in the area suggested that a powerful explosive was used.

    Poster advertising "Bomb Party" on 11 & 12 October 2002, showing revelers on fire!

    Allegations of U.S. and British government prior knowledge and even involvement in the Bali bombing have repeatedly surfaced.
    During an interview for an Australian documentary, former Indonesian President Abdurrahman Wahid unequivocally fingered the Indonesian authorities as the true culprits behind the October 2002 bombing. Wahid said the authorities were acting at the behest of Western intelligence agencies.

    Indonesia has become renowned for rampant corruption and state involvement in terrorist atrocities. Sources told the film makers that government-connected criminals were carrying out an agenda of depopulation in the targeted areas by lowering the value of property and resources, then buying it on the cheap.

    By following international news reports out of Taiwan at the time, we were able to confirm that the U.S. government had advance knowledge of the Bali bombing. They passed that knowledge on to the Taiwanese government and told them to keep the information top secret.

    Hours before the bombing took place, the U.S. withdrew all its administrative staff and diplomats from Indonesia, citing a "security threat". The British government also received the same warning but this wasn't passed on to any relevant authority or the hundreds of victims carelessly making their way to a beach party.

    Immediately after the bombing, the FBI, the Australian Secret Service and British secret police swooped in to the bomb site and ruthlessly took charge of the investigation, much to the chagrin of the Indonesian authorities and the Balinese police.

    Four part documentary: The Truth About The Bali Bombings


    Adam Says:

    A. The bomb was a military grade explosive and if he indeed was not expecting such a blast as the supposed mastermind then something screwy is going on.

    B. Advanced knowledge for the United States which got its staff out of there because America is already involved in Iraq and trying for Iran, basically the focus is on the middle east an the profits that can be reaped from the region.

    Britain and Australia have started to wane on this whole war on terror thing, and are even trying to somewhat distance themselves from it by issuing the statement that if America attacks Iran, it would be a war that could not be won and the backlash in the ME would be tremendous.
    CZF says: Read about the Lavon Affair whence Israeli agents blew up buildings which killed American and British citizens, and then they blamed the Arabs, they were caught after wards and it blew wide open.

    Intelligence agents have infiltrated small time rebel and terrorist groups and then make their tiny plans of terror turn into real military style operations using the best explosives and technology because these stooges are being used in ways they don't realize.

    It is essential that we…strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.” — David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister, as printed in the Jewish Chronicle, 9 August 1967.
    Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan.

    Jane's information group, the world’s foremost source on intelligence information, reported in July 2001 that.. The Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created four new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats.

    In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism..
    Murphy Says: The Bali bombings were clearly an inside job, just like 9/11 and 7/7. Obviously intelligence agencies were involved as always. The bombs deliberately targeted at Australians in order to get Australia in line on the War On Terror.

    That’s the typical Modus Operandi of the New World Order, if they think you’re lagging behind their agenda, they’ll just sacrifice a few of your citizens in a false flag operation to get you on the same page.

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    CIA Blamed for Bali Bombing

    AFP: An Indonesian Islamic cleric, linked to the three extremists awaiting execution for the Bali bombings, said Thursday the 2002 attack which killed more than 200 people, was the work of the CIA.

    The bomb was made by the CIA, it could be no one else," he said in his house at the Al-Mukmin Islamic boarding school on Indonesia's Java island, he said the attack was a conspiracy between "America, Australia and the Jews" and the three convicted bombers, Amrozi, Imam Samudra and Ali Ghufron, were patsies!!

    "The bomb Amrozi set off, the first one, at most it shattered glass and didn't wound people, or at most wounded them a little," he said, sitting on the floor and wearing the white clothes and skullcap of a religious man, Amrozi had been "used by the CIA in coordination with America, Australia and the Jews. The police and the prosecutors aren't brave enough to prove it.

    The coordinated bomb attacks ripped through packed nightspots on the holiday island's main tourist strip, on October 12, 2002 and killed 202 people, mostly foreign visitors including 88 Australians, radical Islamist preacher Bashir, aged around 70, served almost 26 months for conspiracy over the attacks before being cleared and released in 2006, he had been accused of providing spiritual leadership to the Jemaah Islamiyah regional terror group, a claim he denies.

    His comments come amid speculation the government is preparing to execute the three bombers by firing squad next week, in line with their 2003 convictions, the executions have been put off by a series of failed appeals and most recently by the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, raising questions about the government's willingness to kill the men ahead of elections in April, more than 90 percent of Indonesia's 234 million people are Muslims, but most follow a more moderate version of Islam.

    Dismissing Indonesia's Islamic groups as "Jewish organizations," he said he would split from the Indonesian Council of Mujahedin which he had led and form a new group to push for pure Islamic law, He said he would launch the new group, Jemaah Ansharut Tauhid ("partisans of the oneness of God"), on October 25.

    JAKARTA, Nov 4 2008: Lawyers have filed an appeal, against the imminent execution of three men convicted of carrying out the 2002 Bali bombings in Indonesia.
    Lawyers and relatives of the men said Monday in Jakarta, that they lodged judicial review proceedings with Denpasar's district court, questioning previous appeal decisions. Sources said the lawyers lodged an appeal, because they hadn't received a copy of the Supreme Court rejection of their previous appeal, authorities have previously said that all legal appeals were exhausted.

    Dockers Union Editorial: Surely there should be a stay of the executions, the whole story has not emerged, and for the state to proceed with these executions until it has, surely goes counter to the concept of justice!!

    CIA director Michael Hayden, admits that the agency is behind the Predator Drone Missile attacks in the Pakistan Afghanistan region, which are deliberate and unprovoked, he says designed to "tickle," patriots into a response so that Defense Secretary Gates can then nuke them, to wipe out their people and destroy their infrastructure.

    Surely the same concept must be considered here, that the bombings were a false flag op, like the false flag op on 911 that caused the war against Afghan in supposed response!!

    Widespread testimony from bomb survivors in Iraq, says they signed on as American sponsored police recruits, then were given a mobile phone and a car, and told to drive to the market place and call base... when they did the car blew up!!

    The survivors had left their cars for better phone reception!


    Bodies of three Bali bombers buried after execution

    TENGGULUN, Indonesia (AP) — Three Islamic militants executed for the 2002 Bali bombings that killed 202 people were buried Sunday before hundreds of emotional supporters. Some hard-liners shouted "God is great!" and called the men holy warriors.

    Fearing attacks in retaliation for the executions, Indonesia increased security at tourist resorts, shopping malls and office buildings. Several embassies, including from the U.S. and Australia, urged their citizens to keep a low profile, saying they could be targeted.

    Imam Samudra, 38, and brothers Amrozi Nurhasyim, 47, and Ali Ghufron, 48, were taken before firing squads in a field near their high-security prison on Nusakambangan island just after midnight, Jasman Panjaitan, a spokesman for the attorney general's office, told reporters, the men died instantly he said, adding that their eyes were left uncovered at their request.

    The Oct. 12, 2002, attacks — allegedly funded by al-Qaida and carried out by members of the Southeast Asian militant group Jemaah Islamiyah — were the first of several suicide bombings that thrust the world's most populous Muslim nation onto the front lines in the war on terror.
    The three men never expressed remorse, saying the blasts were meant to punish the U.S. and its Western allies for alleged atrocities in Afghanistan and elsewhere. They even taunted family members of victims — 88 of whom were Australian — at their trials five years ago.

    The executions, which were sensitive for both political and security reasons, ended years of uncertainty about their fate, repeated postponements have frustrated survivors and relatives of victims, and enabled the bombers to rally supporters from behind bars by calling for revenge attacks in interviews aired on local television stations or published in newspapers and books.

    The bombers' bodies were taken by helicopters to Tenggulun and Serang, their hometowns in east and west Java respectively, where thousands of sympathizers and onlookers turned out Sunday for their funeral processions, Dozens of radicals scuffled briefly with police in Tenggulun, home of the two brothers, Nurhasyim and Ghufron, but there were no serious disturbances.

    Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, led the prayers for the brothers, one of their final requests.

    Former militants and police allege Bashir headed Jemaah Islamiyah in the early 2000s. But while he was found guilty of giving his blessing to the Bali attacks, his conviction was overturned after he spent more than three years in jail, Bashir said Saturday the bombers had "sacrificed their lives" for "the struggle of Islam."

    It was a day of mixed emotions for survivors and relatives of victims in Australia, Brian Degan of Adelaide, who lost his son Josh in the bombings, said "the tears don't roll quite as often, that absolute gut ache has diminished a bit," but that nothing will ever make the pain disappear,

    He staunchly opposes capital punishment and worries about revenge attacks, even though Jemaah Islamiyah has been severely weakened by hundreds of arrests, with its last attack occurring more than three years ago. There's no shortage around the world of persons that are prepared to commit suicide to achieve a result," Deegan said, others expressed relief that justice had been served at last.

    These guys went to set about mass murder and paid the highest penalty, said Peter Hughes of Perth, who suffered horrific burns in the bombings, it doesn't feel good, but they did do the crime and they've paid for it, though the three Bali bombers said they were happy to die as martyrs, their lawyers fought for years to stop their executions, arguing they were convicted retroactively on anti-terrorism laws.

    They also opposed death by firing squad, saying their clients preferred beheadings because they were more "humane," the three men were among more than 30 people convicted in connection with the twin nightclub blasts. Jemaah Islamiyah was blamed for at least three other suicide bombings in Indonesia, but the 2002 attack was by far the bloodiest.

    One of the attackers walked into Paddy's nightclub on a busy Saturday night, setting off a bomb attached to his vest. Minutes later, a larger car bomb exploded outside the nearby Sari Club.

    The dead included 38 Indonesians, 28 Britons and seven Americans, most revelers fleeing the first blast. Dozens of victims and tourists gathered at "ground zero" of the bombings Sunday to pray and pay their respects to the dead.
    Associated Press writers Zakki Hakim, Ali Kotarumalos and Niniek Karmini in Serang and Jakarta, and Tanalee Smith in Sydney contributed to this report.

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